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Discussion in 'Official Eleon Server' started by RexXxuS, Feb 22, 2017.

  1. Taelyn

    Taelyn Guest

    You ran several commands.

    Undock > Explains clearly what it does. Your able to use this as a player but has nothing to do with killing your self
    Time Command > Says clearly SERVER ONLY
    Oxygen > Internal Command
    Mergestruct > Says clearly what it does. nothing to do with killing your self
    DefragSaveGame > Same Story

    You ran all those commands that have nothing to do with killing your self. Thats why the system banned you.

    DestroyMe > thats the command your looking for.

    If you ran one command and made a mistake i can believe it. But 5 commands sounds abit weird to me. Specially the DefragSaveGame one...

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    Explain to me WHY you ran 5 commands. If the explanation satisfy me i will unban you
     
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  2. ukneo

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    Good afternoon!
    Let's go in order:
    1. The console is an in-game feature opened by the game developers
    2. For each command, a description is displayed, each description contains the required access level
    3. When connecting to the server, there is no direct prohibition on using the console (bold red font in the middle of the screen, for example)
    4. When calling the help command, a list was displayed, which I began to read from bottom to top
    5. It was not clear enough for me from the description of what exactly the allowed command is doing, and for the possible full use of the game's functionality, I decided to experiment (press the buttons)
    6.defragsavegame I typed in the hope of getting rid of microlags (I thought this command could help) and really helped, the solution is ingeniously simple: no game - no lags)))
    7. It is not visible in the logs how, after this command (defragsavegame), I managed to write destroyme 2 times (the first time with an error), and the result was, to put it mildly, shocking, especially the date until which it was banned: 02/18/2106
    8. In my opinion, it is absolutely illogical to ban a player for using in-game tools, it's like giving a cake to a child and forbidding him to eat. This is illogical!
    9. Your server is your rules. But this situation is a fly in the ointment. It spoiled my impression of the game and my yesterday's mood very much.
    Sorry for my English, I use a translator.

    PS: I did not use commands that required access level GameMaster, Admin, Moderator
    PSPS: Time Command> Says clearly SERVER ONLY - you are wrong. The command executed and reported the server time without requiring any rights. Absolutely unnecessary information for me.
     
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  3. Taelyn

    Taelyn Guest

    There are only like 3 commands you as player are allowed to use in the console. Maybe a few others but these are the ones i know just like that.

    - DestroyMe
    - DI
    - Detach

    ANY other command your not allowed to use.

    You used DefrageSaveGame. The SaveGame cant be accessed by a player. Its saved on the Server. ANY player knows this. This command banned you.

    Yes time reports the time. BUT its also used to SET the time. Something a player isnt allowed to do. Something it also says
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    Yes you get a few chances before our tool bans you. As you saw you in my first post.

    We ban people for a reason on useing commands they shouldnt be useing. This way hackers have no chance to destroy the server.
    As a player you have NO need to use the console except DI, Detach and DestroyMe.


    Your Unbanned.. Dont do this again..
     
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  4. ukneo

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    Thanks
     
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  5. gaming

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    Rule 4: You are NOT allowed to build / spawn / fly your structures Inside of asteroids or Inside POIs and park them there (within the bounding box).

    Eleon Studio - Official EU Server
    Torna Sector
    PvE
    1931 X -1251 Y 11530 Z
     
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  6. Taelyn

    Taelyn Guest

    Structures are already removed by the owner
     
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  7. Nyakris

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    I lost all my structures (Helix) and all my ships (Trinity, Elune...) in Suri sector\orbit (PvE, no npc waves) while I was offline.
    Official EU server. No IDs saved. I have only coordinates of my base: 5265, -824, -4842. Player Nyakris.
    So now I'm stuck, floating in the space with staff from my backpack.
    Any way to recover my structures and ships?
     
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  8. Taelyn

    Taelyn Guest

    I would need Structure IDs or ATLEAST Structure Names

    Without this info i cant help
     
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  9. Nyakris

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    Helix, Trinity, Elune, Power
    all from LOL faction
     
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  10. Taelyn

    Taelyn Guest

    Acording to the logs they got deleted due to inactivity.
    Structures get deleted after 30 days IF you dont thouch them

    Last time they where thouched is in September

    Please clarify
     
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  11. Nyakris

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    Imagine you are playing MMO RPG and spend a lot of time and effort to get level 60 and then suddenly get to the hospital for a long time, recover, come back and find that your charater was deleted due to 30 days inactivity.
     
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  12. Taelyn

    Taelyn Guest

    When you join a Server its stated in the Browser what the timer is.

    Servers use this mechanic to keep there SaveGames Clean. And get rid of inactive stuff since it only takes space and resources.
    Gives new players a chance aswell

    Since they got deleted after inactivity, and you dont give me a good reason i will NOT restore it

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  13. Yagar

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    Just an idea: couldn't you add a function that simply disallows using all the other console commands, just returning a message like "You are not authorized to use this command"? This would make the console pretty safe for normal players - and nobody would have to be banned for accidentally typing a forbidden command.
     
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  14. Taelyn

    Taelyn Guest

    If you type by accident a command nothing will happen. If you type 3 times a forbidden command you get banned i believe

    1 time is an accident. 3 times is not an accident anymore

    Its an option in EAH. Its not something we have done
    Most console commands have a lock behind them anyway, Admin, Mod or GameMaster
    The option in EAH is just a SafeGuard
     
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  15. EAH only added that option because some console commands aren't (weren't) properly blocked by the game like they should be. If they had been properly blocked from use EAH probably never would have added it.

    I don't know if those specific commands have been fixed to be properly blocked yet or not, you would have to ask Jascha about that.

    [REMOVED SINCE IT EXPLAINS AN EXPLOID]. It's been a few seasons though and I don't remember which specific commands it was that were causing issues on HWS.
     
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  16. Taelyn

    Taelyn Guest

    Those where already blocked a long time ago :), but this is something iam not going to discuss here...
    Neither you should be explaining exploids here. This is against our Rules.

    But we wont turn it OFF. It runs as a SafeGuard now
     
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  17. Mathe - ValiantKnight

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    Our base "Faihido Trading Inc Base" has been lost/wiped today

    Me and my friends have played on the Eleon - Official EU Server. We have a faction called "Faihido Trading Inc" (shorted in game to "Faihido Trad"). Our base "Faihido Trading Inc Base" on the starter world of Atlon has been completely wiped, leaving us with only our five portable constructors and the three small ships we have built.

    We noticed that the base was gone when we logged in today 15:th of november @ 17:00 CET. I was last logged in early morning the 15:th @ 05:00 CET - Everything was as it should then.

    We have put in alot of hours on the base and would hate if all that hours are just spent for nothing.

    Please help/advice us what to do.

    Best Regards

    Faction Faihido Trading Inc
     
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  18. Taelyn

    Taelyn Guest

    Hello,

    Your base got wiped due to the 7 day timer on Starting Worlds. You have 7 days after spawning a structure. After 7 days it will be deleted since you have to move away from them. You had plenty of warning about this by the tool with the last warning today at 04.38 AM CET

    We use this mechanic so new players have a chance aswell

    Taelyn
     
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  19. Mathe - ValiantKnight

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    Ok we are sorry, but we are all new to the game and where unaware of that mechanic, otherwise we would taken steps to prevent it. Is there a possibility to get a blueprint or anything from the base?
     
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  20. Taelyn

    Taelyn Guest

    Iam willing to restore this base for you. Then you can blueprint it

    Once i do this a NEW 7 days timer will run > Meaning after 7 days it will be removed again if you didnt move away

    This mechanic is only active on the Starting Worlds. Outside those Starting World you are safe from this :)

    I will restore it now, please let me know if it spawned correctly :)
     
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