Known Issue The Tx Signal of Shutter Door issue

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  1. Uchiki

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    If it is the same as the door's Tx Signal, I think this signal indicates the open / close status.

    However, the signal of the shutter door is broken.
    This signal will respond if it is opened and closed by a pair of shutters or a signal from other devices, but if the shutter door is opened and closed manually, this signal will not respond.
     
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    Can you possibly attach a blueprint from this setup? Possibly easier to spot the issue this way :)
     
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  3. Vermillion

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    It sounds more like he's misinterpreting the signal system.

    The Open/Close signal is where you choose what signal is received to open/close the door. It's not the signal the door sends out when opened by hand. If a signal has been selected for a shutter door, it will never open on its own without a signal being sent from a sensor or circuit, or being manually opened by hand.
     
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    You Need to build a 'sensor' (Looks like a switch).
    Now for the simplicity factor, we Keep it as a switch.

    1. Place it and got to P->Signal Logic
    2. Set the switch's TxSignalName to 'sw_door_w_shut'
    3. Now select the door and shutter in Questions and assign 'sw_door_w_shut' to 'Open/Close' of each of the 2 items.
    4. Leave the menu.
    5. Toggle the switch.

    hth
     
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  5. Uchiki

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    A test blueprint is attached.
    (I took the blueprint of the base I was testing by mistake, so I attached the file again.)

    I thought that manual operation was causing the problem, but after testing additionally it was wrong.

    The shutter works in pairs, which seems to cause problems.

    The shutter on the other side opens and closes for operation to one side, but the Tx signal is not responding.

    The problem with this Tx signal is very inconvenient because you are not aware of which of the pair of shutters you are manually operating in the game.
     

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  6. Uchiki

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    As the title says,
    I'm referring to the Tx signal of the shutter itself.

    Using a test blueprint
    Check the behavior of the Tx signal on the opposite side operated by opening and closing the left and right shutters.
     
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  7. Hummel-o-War

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    Ah, ok one moment > if you have two shutters side by side and lets say the left one has set a SignalTX and the right has not, opening the RIGHT will not trigger the SignalTX of the left shutter - that's the issue, right?

    What should NOT happen is, IF the left side is opened or closed by a SINAL (so not SENDING the signal, but being managed by a singnal, f.e.x by a lever) manually opening the right shutter should not co-open the left shutter. But i think that was not the issue right?
     
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  8. Uchiki

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    It's a little different.
    The right shutter opens in sync with the left shutter, but the problem is that the Tx signal on the right does not change.

    Although the right shutter is open, its Tx signal remains closed. If you then close from the right shutter, the left shutter will close but the Tx signal will remain open.

    If the shutter's Tx signal indicates an open / close condition, isn't it a problem?

    The feature is not an issue.
     
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  9. Hummel-o-War

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    So this is not a problem of sending singals, but an issue with the doors opening/closing behavior not working?

    Sorry, but I am afraid i cannot visualize your description...maybe you could do a video?
     
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  10. Vermillion

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    A screenshot (F7) of the door and one of the signal GUI panel will work instead though.
    No one ever sends in a video... most people don't even know how to make one.
     
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  11. ravien_ff

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    I think what he's saying is this: (please correct me if I'm wrong)

    Doors can either be controlled by an INPUT signal, or doors can be set to OUTPUT a signal based on its open/close state.

    Have 2 shutter doors side by side so when one opens they both open.
    Give each one an OUTPUT signal (so they will output a signal when they are open).
    Opening the shutter door should then turn ON the signals that it transmits, to control other devices/lights/etc.
    Closing the shutter door should then turn OFF its signal transmission.

    I think the bug he's talking about is that in this configuration, opening the left shutter door will also open the right shutter door, but will not cause the right shutter door to output its "I'm open" signal like it's supposed to.

    I haven't tested it but I think that's what he's saying.
     
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  12. Uchiki

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    That's right.

    The Tx signals of other devices indicate the status of those devices.
    So I think that the shutter's Tx signal indicates the open / close status.

    In the test module, the light blinks in response to each shutter's Tx signal.

    With shutters that are not in pairs,
    The light blinks when opened and stops when closed.
    The lights work the same way on the door.

    With shutters that are paired,
    When you open the left shutter, the right shutter opens automatically.
    However, the left light blinks and the right one remains off.

    This indicates that the automatically opened right shutter's Tx signal is not updated.

    Hummel-o-War, did you understand this explanation?
     
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  13. Taelyn

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    Its a known issue
    yes we understand it
     
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