yeah your right it was hash an why this was included. "Sure make it so there is always an option to want to participate." Its really from the frustration this topic creates now for years and years. games like altima, EQ1 is really were this all started. I still carry the pain and frustration. Its like i need to poke the anti pvpers who tend to control the outcome more then the pvpers. pvp can bring the toxicity level up in any game. Rust anyone? I just dont feel this is a pvp game. The player base would be exploited by the shortcomings of the game design. I must reiterate i really love this game . with the recent boom in pvp games like i will not say it but ends in a "nite" would influence all game out there to get a piece of that action. I will go out on a limb and say the "type" of player who play this game, would likely not play "nite" I'm I wrong?