Teleporting to Polaris Orbital Trading Station - Rep not good enough.

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  1. Ambaire

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    What if you could pay a quantity of fuel to use their teleporter at neutral? Or even a flat fee? No fee once you're Friendly or above.
     
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  2. johnietoth1967

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    would you let someone that you don't know come in your house and use your shower if they gave you some cash?

    If it was a friend (or family memeber) you would no questions asked, but someone that you don't know?
     
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  3. Ambaire

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    Not even remotely the same thing, and you know it. It's a PUBLIC trading station. Anyone can walk by the teleporter.

    It's like a special fast elevator in a hotel.
     
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  4. johnietoth1967

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    not public, owned by the faction. You will be attacked on site of you are not at least Neutral to them. Public implies government sponsored. They allow you (at neutral or better) to be on their post. so anyone that is neutral or higher can "walk by the teleporter" but only because the allow it to be so.

    point is, they own it, they determine who they will allow to use it, and under what requirements
     
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  5. Spoon

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    It's a business like a shop... Whats it got to do with a house???
     
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  6. johnietoth1967

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    it is called an analogy. both are privately owned structures that can allow or bar entry based on how the owner of said structures feel toward the person seeking entry. Make sense now?

    whether is is a commercial place or living space is immaterial to my point
     
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  7. Spoon

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    So working your way to level 15 means nothing as there are more limits on the teleporter.. According to the level system I'm 3/4 through the game... Yes, we can change it in the files. The devs won't change it as it affects MP... Still stupid.
     
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  8. johnietoth1967

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    who said it means nothing? It mean you got to level 15.. oh and not 3/4 as the level cap is 25. But it means nothing to your rep. Exp points count for levels, rep points count for rep levels. you say stupid but i can literally get to friendly status with POL in 2 hours from new start. What exactly is the problem?????? (and yes can do this in MP as well ..2 hours flat, maybe less)

    So you are complaining, and calling stupid something that is working exactly as it is designed. You stated it was illogical, logic was provided. You asked for dev response, dev response was provided. You were given several ways both thru the game as well as changing files or console commands to get to friendly status. The only thing I can take as a take away from this is you want others to have it the same way as you want it.

    sorry, thats not how the game works.

    still not stupid
     
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  9. Spoon

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    I am commenting. IMO, you look at it as complaining because it goes against your views and anything that does that is 'complaining'
    Many thinks in this game work as they are designed, like the despawning of ships once you put a core in. Not all designs are good ideas.

    Read post 34.

    Yes, this is true.

    That is your take on it. My take on it is that this is a feature for MP that has been given the blanket treatment.

    To conclude: read post 34.
     
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    Opinions are not logical nor illogical. Reasoning can be logical or illogical. You asked for the logic (the reasoning behind it) it was provided. It is nonsensical to state a reason as illogical simply because you disagree with the conclusion. If you feel the hypotheses is illogical then simply refute it. post 34 refers to "your take" ie "your opinion". opinion is a belief. A statement is logical or illogical based on arbitrary facts, not on "your take".

    I will now consider this discussion closed (on my part anyway) as I have more than answered your questions as well as provided the devs response to this. If you wish to discuss it further, be my guest.
     
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  11. Brimstone

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    This is actually the most reasonable solution. They are business... er, businessbeings, after all... although I would say money, not fuel, and reduced fee, not free for friendly. Maybe free for honored, like amenities for VIP status

    For that matter, a shower for a fee wouldn't be bad either. There's precedent a plenty in truck stops


    While I'm on the subject, why is it that I can teleport down from an orbital trading post but not teleport back up from a planetary trader? At least on starting planets
     
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  12. johnietoth1967

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    [QUOTE="Brimstone, post: 415349, member: 24184

    While I'm on the subject, why is it that I can teleport down from an orbital trading post but not teleport back up from a planetary trader? At least on starting planets[/QUOTE]

    You should be able to unless there is a glitch. what happens when you try to do that? Is the TP not active? or does it tell you a message?
     
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  13. johnietoth1967

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    also to use the showers, you have to be a trucker (member of the trucker faction lol)... try using them while on a road trip and they will tell you they are only for truckers (at least the stops I went to)..

    kinda like they (the RL truck stops) are only friendly with members of the "trucker" faction..
     
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  14. Brimstone

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    Maybe your standing wasn't as good as you thought... ;)

    I'm kidding, of course. It sounds like a bad business decision to me, not only truckers travel cross-country and don't want a hotel necessarily

    For the game, now that the economy is starting to flesh out, you need to have drains as well as sources for income. Expanding services is one way to accomplish it. I'd suggest the fee be by distance, and modified by standing

    No destination option, even when I've been to the location
     
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    ok as far as the error, that sounds odd, never seen that before. The reason they have that decision is they have limited amounted of showers and they want to give priority to the truckers (which are their bread and butter money wise). If they had them open to everyone then truckers (which are often on time constraints, will be out of luck if others are using it.

    that being said there are a limited # of truck stops that will let non truckers use it, for a fee of course
     
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