Project Eden (WIP massive random scenario)

Discussion in 'Scenarios' started by ravien_ff, Jun 18, 2018.

  1. xtended2l

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    I found System which supposed to have Polaris Mining Vessel, again, the system is empty. Is it a bug?

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  2. Germanicus

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    I am not the Creator of this mission but I would think that "laying Claim" to a Group of Asteroids does not say that they are actually at work there. Also the Vessel/Station you seek would be a 'Mining Foreman', right?
     
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  3. xtended2l

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    Yes, Polaris Mining Foreman vessel . I need to hand over the quest to the Mining officer. This sector is definitely the one that should contain this vessel. It is a sector added by PE, not vanilla. Do you mean scenario generates empty sectors too?
     
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  4. Germanicus

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    If the Star System has a Name - Alpha,Beta(like the Start Systems)... - than it would be a created one. If not it would be Random. IMO
     
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  5. ravien_ff

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    Check the territory.
     
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  6. ChumSickle

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    I found a pretty cool system that had a bunch of asteroids "claimed" by polaris. Looked like a neat little ball of contacts and reminded me of the ol'graveyard/minefield in vanilla when I fist saw it on my scanner.
     
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  7. Scoob

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    Hey all :)

    With 1.3 Experimental being available, are there any know issues with this Scenario? I've not allowed my game to update yet and wasn't planning to just in case, but I will if there are no known issues. Don't known if Ravien / Vermillion (Reforged) perhaps have access to Experimental builds early, due to their work producing community content.

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  8. Germanicus

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    Of course they have access. Didn't you know? Those two are Demi-Gods from the 'other side';)

    IMO you should play EXP 1.3 in Vanilla.
     
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  9. ravien_ff

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    The scenarios will need to be updated. I don't recommend resuming any save game until it's updated.
     
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  10. xtended2l

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    There is no need to check the territory. I have checked game files, the sector is empty:
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    I have checked the files to be sure. Yes, this system is randomly generated... But I even more confused now. The sector is from the mod, right? I mean generated by the mod, there are also UCH reserach sector too in this sector, which is also empty. And empty sectors are definitely a bugs for me. Dont know...
     
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  11. Germanicus

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    I believe @ravien_ff meant with this, a bit, cryptic response that you should focus on the Area of Influence of the Polaris to find those Miners.
     
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  12. ravien_ff

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    On the galaxy map, turn on show territory.
    You'll find Polaris in either neutral or Polaris territory mostly.
     
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  13. ravien_ff

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    If you check the playfield description it also says this.
     
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  14. xtended2l

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    ok. What I found atm.
    There is a file in
    D:\Games\SteamLibrary\steamapps\common\Empyrion - Galactic Survival\Saves\Games\NewGame\Templates\Moraddae\playfield.yaml

    I dont know if it means that the sector is fixed or random. Seems like if it has a template file - it is fixed scenario sector.
    But anyway, the file is full of POI's. For an instance:

    - Type: BA_Alien
    Prefab: Eden_BAO_PolForemanT3
    Mode: Survival
    Name: Mining Foreman
    InitPower: true
    Faction: Polaris
    Properties:
    - Key: Discovery
    Value: False
    - Key: Music
    Value: NebularClouds
    - Key: RegenAfter
    Value: 720
    Pos:
    - 19169
    - -104
    - 8226

    I moved to mentioned coordinates, and it is not there. The sector is empty, while template for this sector is full of POI's, it has mentioned Polaris Mining Vessel, it has claimed asteroids, drones, etc. For whatever reason, the game does not loaded this template, that is why it is empty. It is now clear that this is a bug.
     
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  15. Scoob

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    I know this, but they're humble guys and I didn't want to embarrass them :)

    Cool. I'll stick with 1.2 for now as I've, once again, just gotten to the point of having a CV so don't want to restart just yet. I'm using the Reforged version now too, so getting to this point took a bit more effort than usual.

    I might copy my install and run it as a separate instance and also have a 1.3 vanilla game. That used to work, but I've not tried running multiple instances in ages.

    Scoob.
     
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  16. ravien_ff

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    Which territory is it in?
     
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  17. xtended2l

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    I need to say sorry, guys) I was too impatient. It seems like template file is not loaded if the sector is not claimed by Polaris... So i checked it ingame, made the way all through the galaxy to Polaris, and yes... it is there. I am still do not understand why then we see all these empty sectors tbh... It feels a bit wrong.
     
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  18. xtended2l

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    Empty playfields are everywhere inside Zirax territory. They are there, UCH research playfields and Polaris Mining playfields are in almost all Zirax-claimed sectors, but they are all empty. And now I see why. But I think it is not a good design. Why spawn misleading empty playfields? Maybe it is better to remove them from Zirax territory if they are not supposed to be there?
     
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  19. Germanicus

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    To keep exploring.
     
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  20. xtended2l

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    Seems more like hard-coded limitation ;)
     
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