Feedback from Pro PvP Player

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  1. Germanicus

    Germanicus Rear Admiral

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    In addition to that I would strongly advice AGAINST EXPLOITS. We all know how Devs harshly react when Player use them while knowing it as an EXPLOIT and still not reporting them. that's really BAD (not EGS).
     
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  2. -=Ice=-

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    Ohh... guyz, i feel i need to introduce myself a bit.
    In 2018 i was playing on official Eleon EU, my server playday began with message "hello pve hamsters, who wanna pvp today?" and 99% chance i got silence. So all i done there - was placing 100500 beacons and was hunting pve miners. Some people were warping away same second they sees me :) You can ask Taelyn https://empyriononline.com/members/taelyn™.12838/ or, for example, wildboy https://empyriononline.com/members/wildboy.18370/ about me.
    In 2019 i was on HWS EU in OPG faction, we were smashing everybody in PvP. You can ask local "pvp master" paxxo1985 https://empyriononline.com/members/paxxo1985.23552/ how i smashed him 1 vs 2 on CVs last time :) Also i'm a true HWS legend, cause local admin rexxxus (or better say suxxxer, right direction) https://empyriononline.com/members/rexxxus.9086/ know me very well and i'm still his worst nightmare, he banned me 6 times already :D For example he has the most fckn weirdest rule on his OWN PRIVATE server: you can't play spy games on HWS. Of course i ignored that strange misconception, infiltrated all our enemies and stole some info. Was fun :) Of course i earned personal hate of that guy and i was banned even on Eleon EU, wich in fckn insane cause i don't even play there. Can you imagine, some 3rd party guy banning me on official Eleon EU just because he hates me and because i don't share his limited life's views... Or, for example, earlier he banned me for 2 days for my PRIVATE PM conversation with a random guy in discord (that guy cryed to rex and copied our private dialogue).

    But whatever, i lived through Empyrion. I was a noob here, i was a pve miner, i was a pvp fighter, i even was somebody's mind blower.
    And you guyz, what did you do in Emp except of PvE mining and doing beauty vessels for workshop? I didn't saw you in pvp even once. What new can you tell me about a game, its mecanics? I bet nothing. Except of your theories. Cause to be a pro PvPer you need to know all mecanics, or you will be killed pretty fast.

    And you telling me about balance. I don't give a fck about balance to be sure, we used to rebuild our vessels like once a month cause devs are randomly tuning numbers. I'm telling about bugs! BUGS. Not balance numbers. And those bugs here for 4 years. Just fix bugs 1st, tune balance later. Is it so hard to understand?

    Let me tell you a story. Try next. Spawn CV and SV. Dock SV to CV. Sit to CV and fly somewhere. Press F4 while flying on speed. Try to reach SV's cargoboxes. F4 will close. Do you know why? I know. And devs know. That's how they "fixed" one of duplicating methods. My methods kinda similar, but different. I wanna say devs KNOWS about problem, but they are unable to solve it completely. Or they just don't want, no matter. They just lying to you they fixed dupes. They don't, they just made some crutches. And this approach is really BAD.

    And i realize those dupes can easily kill Emp economy (to be sure its already dead from a box) on some servers, so i keep it in a big secret for now.
     
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  3. Germanicus

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    Just beware your language and words you use. But I see your point. I quote you ->

    "I wanna say devs KNOWS about problem, but they are unable to solve it completely. Or they just don't want, no matter..."

    And here it is where you don't get the reason of the Devs not to solve immediately each occurring issue - First they have a different approach to the Problem and they rather prefer not to solve one-at-a-time but several which are linked together what you don't know.
    Second, they opened the proverbial Can of Worms with starting programing this game and face all the challenges with the Testers together. You can read more than once in this Forum that they actually play Test Stuff.
    As I said so many times - it is not that easy to add new stuff without breaking/bugging other things that worked perfectly before.
    And THAT they work on it is an undeniable Truth.

    So I am out of here - have a Ship to redesign and another to Build.;)
     
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    Sounds like you'd enjoy EVE Online. It's a PvP focused game where there are no safe zones, no rules against spying or stealing, anything goes as long as you don't hack or exploit. I love that game personally.

    I'm just saying, you're bragging and talking down to others a lot for someone who doesn't even play a PvP focused game where you can risk losing a ship you saved up a year for...
     
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    And I was probably PvPing while you were still in diapers. I was PvPing before the term "PvP" even existed, back when having a 56.6k modem made you feel like you could kill anyone with *only* a 350 ping. I was PvPing back in old text games, so stop with your elitist "pro-pvp" attitude. :D
     
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  6. -=Ice=-

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    If they ban my account here - i'll throw video instruction how to dupe to public, whats for sure :)
    They always can write me a pm and i can provide a lot of useful information about bugs, exploits, etc... I can even help with tests, etc. Just let them contact me. I've tired a bit to make report posts and get absolute zero feedback from developers.
    Earlier i was reporting bugs via useless gasket, an admin we all know, and it became an epic fail as result. Cause he was using it all in his personal interests. If you want me to report something now, i'll do it directly to devs only, in pm, i don't need 3rd party noobs for this, really.
    But i donno, maybe they happy without it all.
    "immediately each occurring issue" - loool :) Dupes not born yesterday, i think they are here from release date, for 4 years :) Still can't solve it.
    Never played it and have no wish to do it)
    I play games for... mmm... 29 years already, i guess? :) But who cares for real? I'm talking only about Empyrion experience, cause other game have different mechanics, you can't match it. And yes, i'm a more pro in this game than all of you here :cool: Just a fact, accept it :D
     
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    Too bad. You're missing out. :D

    Other games have mechanics geared towards PvP, because they are PvP focused games.
    And what PvP game did you play 29 years ago, pong? :D

    Anyway, done with this discussion.
     
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  8. -=Ice=-

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    It was Paratrooper or Sopwith, don't remember what was first for real. But i remember my very first reaction on computer game - i was angry cause i couldn't control stuff as i wanted :) But after some practice in went ok)
     
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    oh, you mean pvp... don't remember for real, was some RTS via modem :)
    or we played Doom on LAN in school :)
     
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  10. Demonic

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    Oh wow. Haven't seen so much arrogance in one post in a long time.
     
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    There's another term for which you use the euphemism "pro PvPer", that is probably more applicable.

    I did my own fair share of PvP play back in my day, including local, state and national championship play (Quakecon, 4 years running, went by the name "Catch" and was everyone's worst nightmare with a grenade launcher). I also hosted the Unreal Tournament server Little Shop of Horrors for 6 years, and was a master sniper in America's Army (original release). For me PvP play just got old, and my taste in games changed. I found survival games more of a challenge, and found I enjoyed challenging myself in new and different ways.

    One thing I never was though, was banned for being, to borrow the euphemism, a "Pro PvP'er". Never needed exploits, outright cheats, or even cheesy tactics. I never tried to ransom bugs for personal interests, and was always glad to share techniques and insights with others. One of my most fun encounters was on the Jolt UK Unreal Tournament server, where I'd grown a bit of reputation for my use of the translocator and telefragging skill. After my 21st telefrag, one of the other players asked "How do you do that?"
    I stopped, we talked, I explained it, and we spent the next 3 matches playing nothing but Telefrag with a group of 15. We all had way too much fun, way too many laughs (terminal teleportation velocity was hysterical), and when all was said and done, a bunch of people learned a few new things.

    I've no doubt you have developed EGS PvP aptitude, but you project such an attitude that it makes what you have to say challenging to want to hear.
     
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  12. Minelaus

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    where is the fking facepalm smily when you need it , everytime when i notice this "im a pro" alure i get a piercing pain in my head and my skin starts to get green .

    With this atitude i think they have you allready on the ignore list , people don't like to be threatened .

    I think you would like eve .

    Oh my little Padawan :rolleyes: i remember to begging my father for a Comodore 128 while the old Computer was not fast enought :cool:

    No , just no , believe me it's a no .

    jep the point where i stoped to play eve online ;) my poor Typhoon R.I.P. :(
     
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  13. -=Ice=-

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    Ohhh... what can i say here. You all guyz very smart and your opinion is very right for you. Same for devs. Their attitude is so high in sky. And too much pve talking.
    But what are the facts? 7 years of development, 5 ears in Alpha and it is still fckn unbalanced and unplayable like hell. Donno how many decades they need to release it, maybe 5? I might die before it :D
    I still play Emp because of hopelessness, cause i just like the game's lore. As soon as StarBase will be released - i'll disappear from here forever. At least SB devs do not imagine themselves as local gods and communicate with common players, even with players like me.
     
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    I wonder what you'll post in their forums....
     
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    You all wrong here who talking me about EVE. I saw gameplay, i've talked to people, i dont like it and i dont wanna play it.
     
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    I guess nothing, cause i easily can PM devs in discord, they agree to have direct communication. Without 3rd party random people.
     
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  17. Minelaus

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    o_O:rolleyes: .... again ... realy ...

    Jep, exept the unplayable thats realy hard bound on the situation , cv pvp is not ok but working , sv pvp you can forget about , exept you play helicopter wars :rolleyes::D.

    i don't think so but i think when the game will go down it is still in Alpha :D.

    It's youre choise i dosen't even play EGS annymore , i tried yesterday if the game goes in any interessting way for me (installed and deinstalled it 2 times) but im totally dissatisfied with the development so i stop playing this game , but i hope that the devs get out thair heads of the clouds and start listening what the Community is criticize , so i just watch the forums .
     
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    LOL...what's wrong? To busy trying to be a big fish in a little pond? A proPVPer afraid of real PVP> hhhmmm...

    Well you did win one distinction with your trolling; your the first...and oh, only person to make my ignore list. Goodbye.:D
     
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    Starbase devs right now:
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    My reaction :
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