Fixed Strange "container" popping up when dismantling enemy ship [7520]

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  1. El_Globo

    El_Globo Commander

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    Hi,

    Yesterday, I attacked a zyrax fregate in orbit around my starting planet. The combat was normal, except that the enemy ship was moving by steps of something like 200m as it it was teleporting or subject to lag. The movement wasn't smooth. I found it strange.

    Then when I disabled his energy source I ran out EVA to find the core destroy it and dismount parts of ships with my tool.

    When I wanted to get into the ship, I ran into invisible blocks and wasn't able to move as usual. I tried godmode and found the core, destroyed it and tried to salvage some blocks with my tool. Sometimes blocks were removed as they should be, most of time the tool ray seemed to encounter invisible and indestructible obstacle. I tried debug weapon, quit the game, reload, reload from a previous save before attack.... etc. Nothing worked. I continued trying to dismout it using a lot of energy charges and aiming randomly. I noticed too that small dropped boxes loots were not interactable (F key) immediatly. I had to wait a few seconds to see the F cursor interraction to appear, as it the big mess in the ship created lag.

    Previous stations attacked before reacted normally. It was the first time.
    I tried to attach my compressed filesaved game but message says the file is too large (18642 ko).

    I can send it by mail if you give me an adress.

    Regards
     
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  2. Pach

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    Upload to a sharing site, like googledrive or dropbox, and post the link... that's the usual method. You get a "like" just for making the save available. ;)
     
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  3. El_Globo

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  4. El_Globo

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    Hi,

    On the same game, another Zirax ship that I can move into. It is very annoying if every ship is screwed :
    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1nezfQ9VD3-4Zhl8Mu74WICWucGtBOOeT/view?usp=sharing

    Thanks

    PS : after having sent to you the saved game, I reloaded the game and then the invisible blocks were not there. I could move into the ship. But while I was salvaging the ship it suddently vanished entirely (after having found and destroyed the core).
     
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  5. etmoonshade

    etmoonshade Ensign

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    Build: 3075
    Mode: Survival Singleplayer

    Reproducibility: I'm 2 for 2 on reproducing it - probably "Always"
    Severity: Major - seems to break salvage?

    Type: Salvage

    Summary: Strange "container" popping up when dismantling enemy ship

    Description:
    It took me a while to pin this one down. This bug appears to happen when you shoot up an enemy vessel - when salvaging, you'll get a single part, your multitool will read "Container" for ~3 seconds, then you'll be able to salvage the next part.

    I suspect something similar is happening with the CV multiturret, though obviously I don't have a display. Similar symptoms though - I salvage a part, and it takes ~3 seconds before I can salvage another one.

    This does NOT appear to happen when salvaging from a spawned ship.

    This appears to be a regression between 3069 and 3075 - I was actually in the middle of taking apart a ship that I'd shot up when an update happened and broke it, but I was also able to reproduce it on a new game.

    Steps to Reproduce:
    Disable an enemy CV. Seems like it doesn't matter how - the first one, I shot out the generators, destroyed the core manually, and added my own; the second one, I got a core hit directly to disable it.
    Start attempting to dismantle the ship. Sometimes, you can get a couple of parts in a row, but mostly you end up having to wait between parts because of the "ghost container"


    Screenshots, Crash Logs, any other Relevant Information or Download links:
    20200820070629_1.jpg
    You can see that the crosshair isn't even pointing at the red wall piece under the "Pentaxid" marker, but it still shows that there's a "container" in the way.
     
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  6. Fenra369

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    Build: 3079
    Mode: Survival
    Mode: Dedicated

    If applicable:
    MODIFIED PLAYFIELDS: Yes

    Reproducibility: Sometimes
    Severity: Minor

    Type: Patrol Vessel

    Summary: Patrol Vessel death spawns impassible and invulnerable air blocks

    Description: There is an issue with killing custom patrol vessels where it appears for some reason they will spawn air blocks in the interiors of the ship, resulting in many areas of the ship being impassible and un-salvagable with multi tool. In debug info they show up as 'Air Block' id 0.

    Steps to Reproduce:
    1. use the provided prefab in a scenario.
    2. Destroy said ship in a survival scenario
    3. Attempt to multitool or salvage areas of the ship. In some cases you can, in others you cannot

    Screenshots, Crash Logs, any other Relevant Information or Download links:


    20200823215151_1.jpg

    Possible workaround: Salvage a block of the ship, 'look away' from it (do not point at the block you removed), and when you look at it again the air block goes away. These air blocks do not show up in debug view either. This doesn't work if you move into the block you removed.
     

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  7. Shabba

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    Spent around 20 mins trying to take down a PV, destroyed most of the turrets but my miniguns were shooting at the generator (they were hitting a steel block which presumably was on the way to the generator). I exitied my ship and found what I thought was a way in, in fact a door so i went to walk up the steps to the door and I couldnt get any further, took a few steps back and shot a rocket at the door and the rocket exploded 2 feet in front of me, an invisible wall blocking my way -- (shield of enemy ship was well and truly destroyed by the way so wasnt a shield). Out of interest, i thought id take my multitool and hover over the invincible block which my miniguns were firing at for the past few mins (just to see how much hp the block had left), apparently the indistructable block which my miniguns were firing at was a completely undamaged cargo box - but there was no cargo box, it was a steel block. I didnt bother wasting any more time here. On a separate occasion I had destroyed the core from outside the ship, however still had a similar issue when i was trying to remove blocks with my multitool. I love the game but these kinds of bugs are infuriating and have found posts on this very issue dating back to 2017.
     
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  8. Spoon

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    Out if interest, had you destroyed all the thrusters?
    Was the ship still moving?
     
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  9. Shabba

    Shabba Ensign

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    The ship wasnt still moving (was in space i forgot to mention), however the ships guns were still firing at me if I passed in front of them, so there was power, so Id assume all thrusters were destroyed.
     
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  10. Dreadarm

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    Build:1.1.6 (3079)
    Mode:Survival
    Mode:Multipalyer

    SERVER NAME: Reforged Eden |PvPvE| by Dreadarm
    SEED-ID:4301986

    If applicable:
    MODIFIED PLAYFIELDS: Reforged Eden Scenario

    Reproducibility: 100% - Multiplayer only
    Severity: - Major

    Type: AIVessels

    Summary: After disabling an AI CV there are invisible walls that prevent you from getting into the ship.

    Description: Disabling an AI vessel such as blowing out generators leaves invisible walls that block you from boarding the ship. After a lot of reading It appears that it is some collision mechanism not syncing properly. If you take out all the engines from the ship, the issue disappears. I have tried to reproduce this in single player but it does not appear to effect single player, only multiplayer.

    Steps to Reproduce: Join a server, blow up an enemy AI CV, try to board, fail, beat your head against the desk, try again, curse your very existence, try one last time, punch your monitor and rage quit.

    Screenshots, Crash Logs, any other Relevant Information or Download links:
    previously reported and listed as "fixed" but it is not.
    https://empyriononline.com/threads/invisible-blocks-7306.93085/
     
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  11. Germanicus

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    ...fixed for SP at least;)
     
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  12. Dreadarm

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    As of the update last night to 1.1.7 I can now board ships, it appears the invisible walls are gone. for now at least.

    *EDIT*

    Nevermind, still seems to be affecting some ships, Legacy in particular.
     
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