more important animation needed than crouching

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  1. Pear78

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    we need to be able to sleep. in a bed. log off in the bed.
    but more importantly; wake up in the bed when you log/load back in.
     
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  2. Spoon

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    Ok, what is the purpose is this? How is this better than just being were you where the last time you logged off?
    I have nothing against the idea... Just curious.
     
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  3. xtended2l

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    I dislike the idea tbh. Sleep is a good mechanic in Minecraft to skip the night in SP. But why we should log off in bed?
     
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    Minecraft have just added a new game rule there you can set the percentage of people on a server that is required to sleep, to skip the night. If you set it at 0% then you only need 1 person to sleep to skip the night. Or set it at 101% to never be able to skip the night.
     
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  5. Pear78

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    com on guys, it's just for cosmetic / RP purposes, sarcasm, anybody? I know it's hard in text, but i thought this was kind of obvious ;)
    looking at a bed will give the option to log off/safe besides sleep for the night (in SP). I like the idea of MP voting for night skipping!

    we need waking up in a bed because RP. And obviously RP is the top priority right now.
     
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  6. Germanicus

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    Well than your whole Thread Title is ..on the wrong side?
    Crouching is lesser a cosmetic as rather a survival/fighting necessity, wouldn't you agree?
    The ability to DUCK or TAKE COVER behind an obstacle is entirely a different story compared with the cosmetic of sleeping/wake up in a Bed.
    (not even trying to think about how hard to program it would be for Characters sleeping in Bunk Beds)
     
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  7. The Big Brzezinski

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    A more general animation expansion would be better. Emotes, consumables use, stuff like that. Crouching, on the other hand, that would require revisions to combat systems and POIs to be useful. This ain't some console popup shooter.
     
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    yes lets discuss this thoroughly and very seriously.
    Ill come back to check in a bit :p
     
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  9. Spoon

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    Ok...
    Crouching can be good for combat. Lots of people have asked for this and I'm sure that it would go down well with many members of they did the change. They would have to sort out the hit boxes of objects though, as at the moment its a bit rubbish for precision shooting.
    While being able to skip the night in Minecraft is easy, as the whole world has the same time zone, you could not do this in Empyrion. Sleeping in bed would look cool from a role play point of view and for single player you could actually skip the night. For bunk beds you could click on the bed and then choose which bed you want to sleep on.


    Additional note: We need a 'sarcastic' font...
     
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  10. Pear78

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    the example of crouching as being less important was not accidental ;)

    to me it doesnt matter to me if it's day or night, I just want to be able to stand up from my bed when I log or load in ;)
    and there is a lot of small MP servers, just set up for 1 group of friends, I think they would like it to be able to skip the night (and speed up (production) timers!).
    surely not applicable for HWS and the likes, but even on big MP servers the enjoyment of logging back in and getting up from a bed would be welcomed I think ;)
     
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    First, a reminder: I only play SP.:cool:

    I like the idea of "going to bed". Just as we can now "sit" in chairs, I would like the ability to "lie down" in bed when I choose to do so. I also think "sleep time" should be adjustable and determined by the player and the situation. Having to wait till "sunset" to sleep, yet not awake till nearly 2 hours past "sunrise", seems wrong to me. It wastes precious daylight for no apparent reason. In some cases, it emulates over 14 hours of sleep!

    I would prefer to:
    1. Sleep at sunset; awake at sunrise.
    2. Sleep whenever I choose; awake at sunrise.
    3. Sleep whenever I choose; awake at a preset length of time (6, 8, 10 hrs ?)

    No. 3 would allow a restful nap before embarking on a night raid.;)

    I do not think "sleep" should be the required method of logging off as it simply wouldn't fit every situation or style of play.
    I do think it is an excellent option.

    As for crouching ( and let's not forget the prone position), I'm all for it, especially if it means I could get under low obstacles.

    When it comes to hpw all this works, I'm pretty ignorant. I see things in other games and wonder why it can't be like that here. The game is changing and I may not be able to keep up. Until then, I remain a loyal enthusiast and will continue to add my 2 cents.
     
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    Actually it was reintroduced. I remember this feature since MC was in Beta.
     
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  13. Spoon

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    I don't remember that... Not that I ever use it as I play single player.
     
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    I can imagine beds functioning more like chairs and other interactive deco blocks. You lay in the bed, and left click to sleep. Tents could similarly be something you can sit inside, offering additional radiation and temperature protection.

    Emote animations are a great tool for communication, roleplay, and storytelling. Sometimes you need an actual cheer or facepalm to truly convey your thoughts in ways text just can't handle. Having an NPC deliver dialogue with a lively animation is a very old trick for adding personality to him.

    Whenever I think about crouching in Empyrion, I only see it causing problems. For instance, what blocks will you be couching behind? There aren't any chest high walls in the game, only half blocks. Ducking down behind one would just about put you in a prone position. It's never going to look right. POIs would need to be rebuilt as well. Do you really think designers aren't going to make every seemingly protected position into kill box?
     
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    Regarding tents, that's something I've been meaning to talk about. I definitely think tents should be more than just a point to turn night into day. Have them be a first shelter that can be entered at any time. Since camouflage tents are now available, let them be a source of concealment.

    I guess the subject of emoting NPCs is "more important animation". Yeah, okay. Better if they added text-to-speech so we (I) could hear them.

    As to what blocks we would crouch behind, you partially answered that yourself. There are other things beside "Blocks". There are rocks, trees, ravines, craters and such. In the early days of the game, I dug "foxholes" to keep from getting blasted. And as I mentioned previously, I haver had occasion to wish I could reduce my height (all 4.5' of it) to either get under, or just see under, a low hanging object.
     
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