How to reassign ship weapon hotbar?

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  1. Khazul

    Khazul Rear Admiral

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    I wished they would just copy what SE does with both 3rd person view control and toolbar mapping (and while at it - SE block manipulation during build - also so much quicker).
     
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  2. Apocrypha

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    The inability to move things around on the ship hotbar is extremely frustrating, I really wish it worked the same way as the player hotbar.

    I'd also like to be able to put other things on the ship hotbar, e.g, constructors, switches, etc. I'd love to be able to just press a number to turn specific sets of lights on or off, or to access the food processor or mining laser, etc.
     
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  3. jones99306

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    The answer to how things appear on the toolbar is, let's say intriguing. It's based on how far things are from the core, but not always in the same manner. Also, there's a priority system regarding sides. You can prove this by simply adding and removing weapons in creative. Here's the rundown:

    Vertically: priority placement goes to weapons on the Underneath of the core
    If underneath, then the furthest weapon is placed 1st on the toolbar
    If above, then the nearest weapon is placed 1st on the toolbar

    Horizontally: priority placement goes to weapons on the Port side (left) of the core
    If port, then the furthest weapon is placed 1st on the toolbar
    If starboard, then the nearest weapon is placed 1st on the toolbar

    Fore/Aft: priority placement goes to weapons to the Aft of the core
    If aft, then the furthest weapon is placed 1st on the toolbar
    If fore, then the nearest weapon is placed 1st on the toolbar

    Priority on all axis goes: Port, Underneath, Aft, Fore, Above, Starboard

    So, if you have weapons on the horizontal wings, then the port weapons will take priority in how far they are from the core. For instance, if the outer weapons are rockets, and the nearer ones are the gatling guns, then the rockets will be first on the toolbar. Add a detector next to the core and it will be the very last one on the toolbar. The only way to make it 1st would be to stick it on the wingtips.

    All this basically means that it's realistically and styleistically impossible to get the weapons where you want them (unless you jigger with your design to great degrees).
     
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  4. zaphodikus

    zaphodikus Captain

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    Is there a issue ticket linked to this thread?
    If it was as simple as using the ordering of groups, which you can somewhat control suing the power of alphabet, that would make so many people happy.
     
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  5. Kats

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    For what I have seen, Ship weapons are sorted by how many of them are placed on the ship, so the detector always gets pushed away from the first slot, because obviously, we only put 1. High number first.

    I only have 1 vehicule which contain more than 1 item on the ship hotbar, so I may lack precision on that topic.

    And... I haven't tested it since so I don't know if it is fixed, but there was a bug where it was possible to put items in the ship bar when wireless direct connection to one of its containers is active. And of course, those items were simply sent to the void never to been seen ever again.
     
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  6. dichebach

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    Old thread but it came up in my search.

    Got a weird problem on the server I'm playing on. Spawned in a CV from blueprint. Made some changes to it, including adding 5 co-axial lasers to the nose. Played with it a bit, and decided to overhaul it and change out the co-ax lasers with arty. Stripped it down to the skeleton, and totally rebuilt the whole thing.

    Got in the Captain chair and the lasers are still on the hotbar even though they are not installed. Tried logging out and relogging: no fix. Tried removing the artillery, no fix. Tried logging and relogging with the artillery removed, Still no fix.

    Any ideas?
     
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  7. IndigoWyrd

    IndigoWyrd Rear Admiral

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    Would love to be able to change these, have since the very first time I jumped in a vehicle.
     
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  8. Luurch

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    Going to add my concern to the inability to change where things are on the hotbar, seems like with some fairly intricate programming available to us in the game that there would be a way to put thing where we want them on a hotbar. Just one of those things that doesn't seem to be up far on their priorities I guess.
     
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  9. Insopor

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    It is actually possible to arrange weapons on hotbar for vessels. But it requires you to change their placement within the build.
    Basically, the game starts at the left and does a check for weapons. Whatever order it finds those weapons, that's the order they show up on the hotbar.

    Credit to Movado for this one.
     
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  10. Kassonnade

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    The video only mentions "left to right", but actually the priorities seem to go like this:

    From back to front first
    From bottom to top second
    From left to right third

    So a detector placed behind the first weapon on the left will appear first, if placed one block higher but in same vertical alignement it will appear second, etc. All weapons/ devices in the same "column" will appear from back to front, then from bottom to top, then from left to right.

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