Question for all you expert builders out there

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  1. Gorbachef

    Gorbachef Ensign

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    so, iv been trying to use the copy past to take the wings off a ship and put onto another one. iv got the wings to where they need to be but i cant for the life of me work out how to attack them, they just sit there as a separate entity
     
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  2. cpontin

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    A copy from one building/ship pasted near another still belongs to the original one.

    Use Mergestructs to join them into one entity and then what you are doing will work.

    Console commands:
    Mergestructs parentid childid
    Mergestructs parentid childid -ex

    The first aligns them so you can adjust positions the second commits the merger and deletes the child’s core.

    Get their ids with:
    find <partial name>

    Essentially what I suggest you do is merge your two vehicles into one entity (even though they are still separated by a bit of space), copy your blocks over and then delete the vehicle you don’t want.
     
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  3. Frigidman

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    When you copy from one structure entity, and want to paste to another... make sure you go over to the other one and do this:

    • After making a selection on the first structure and clicking the "Copy" button...
    • Close the build helper menu, and move over to the new structure...
    • Open the build helper menu
    • UN-tick "Selection"
    • RE-tick "Selection"
    • Click ON the new structure to start a new selection (it can remain a 1x1x1 blue box)
    • Now click the "Paste" button
    • The paste will now be associated with the new structure, and not the original one (it should also be a green bounding box)
    • Move it where you want it.
    • Click the "Paste" button a final time to 'solidify it' (it will now look like its in a blue bounding box).
    • UN-tick the "Selection" checkbox to confirm the part is still stuck there.
     
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  4. Vermillion

    Vermillion Rear Admiral

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    The deselect button does both at the same time, with less chance of jamming the N-menu.
     
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  5. Frigidman

    Frigidman Rear Admiral

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    You whippersnappers and your fancy deselect buttons. Why when I was makin ships, we had to hand deliver each part through the snow and rain!
     
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  6. Vermillion

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    We whippersnappers weren't subject to shipbuilding in rain and snow because we hand assemble them in space!
     
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  7. Gorbachef

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    you sir are a legend!!
     
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  8. ravien_ff

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    In case anyone else wants a video example:
     
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  9. cpontin

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    I’ve been playing around with the copy/paste method too and it works great.

    Thanks for posting it.
     
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  10. Frigidman

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    Thanks! I was going too... but my OBS is on the fritz and didn't have the time to futz.
     
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  11. DisgruntedSpaceNinja

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    You cannot copy dynamic ship blocks, it needs to be put in the game and not in the game world or it will simply not get used.
     
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  12. SLI_Fallen

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    So this means you cannot use this to select-cut-copy-paste on a GROUP of blocks from one ship to another (or edit the same ship). An example would be to make a ship wider by selecting say, half of it, cut the block group off, widen the center then replace the group back in place.
     
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  13. wrenchinator

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    I made an extra deck in my Jupiter 3 by doing just that. I also created my 4 ball builds by doing that on an old design. I think they work just fine although perhaps something is wrong I am not aware of?
     
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  14. SLI_Fallen

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    Really? Wow! So the above procedure is what I follow to accomplish that?

    And forgive me, still very much a noobie with editing/modifying.
     
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  15. wrenchinator

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    Perhaps I dont understand fully what is being posted here? I just cut a ship in half (a CV and an SV) and added a deck in and then reattached the half I cut off. Maybe thats not what you guys meant?
     
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  16. SLI_Fallen

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    Step by step, HOW do you...

    -Select a group of blocks

    -Cut them

    -Then paste them where you want

    (I am assuming this ONLY works in creative mode)

    :)
     
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  17. wrenchinator

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    Well, I dont want to write it out because Ill probably miss something. I will try to get a video made of me doing it in real time. When its done ill post it here so you can see. BTW while I consider myself an expert in functionality, I am by no means any where near the expert some in here are.
     
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  18. SLI_Fallen

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    :rolleyes: Wow. That is above and beyond the request! A most sincere thanks for the response, much less a tutorial video! :D
     
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  19. wrenchinator

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    So this guy has one already posted, the only thing i did was use cut to remove the section i wanted then moved it up enough blocks to add the deck and then pasted it back. So i had a ship with a blank deck and then i filled that in with my blocks. So if you really need to see that in addition to this video let me know :)
     
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  20. SLI_Fallen

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    Perfect. Now i'm off to the races.. :D

    Thanks!
     
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