Help needed How do you change what can be placed on CV / SV

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  1. MrGReaper

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    Ah, that would explain why my changes to config.ecf have failed.
    We are, as I say, running project eden and have a custom folder already on the server for that scenario (we didnt like some of the game option choices, hey we all game differently) so it was into that which I placed the config.ecf (in content/cnfiguration if memory serves...where the block and item configs are). It seemed the ultimate solution, we could update the scenario as needed and not lose our changes...oh well...damn....
    I have been making edits to the configs in the folder (got CV weapons working in space, increased the CV and base teleporter to 1000ly, and some other tweaks that tailored it to our more casual between work shifts play style) will just stop updating the scenario. I still need to learn how to add more blocks to the game, how to add mods to a dedicated hosted server (if I understand correctly I need to have the host load a different exe up to have mod support....thats probably a conversation I need to have with GPortal once I understand it more. Then I need (ok ok want) to learn how to make mods for the game, thats a longer and more complex issue and not something I plan to tackle for a few weeks, not sure the API is stable or ready enough for that yet?

    What I am saying is I am still learning :)
     
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  2. zaphodikus

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    Oh, I am learning too. I wrote a steam guide called the Gentle guide to ECF modding , but since A11 a lot of the best practise has changed. I want to rewrite the guide soon, but, real life happens. You want to either copy the existing ECF files to a scenario, or create a config.ecf, mixing it up is possible but causes pain because of the order in which the game engine loads things. At least you have a working server config that you are customising, adding new items into a existing game is always risky. I need to watch more Blender videos on this, because meshes and hitboxes, and interactions with blocks are complicated.

    You are right about writing proper actual mods, it's a changing landscape and the lack of beginner tutorials is a hurdle. Mods are binaries, but they are plugins, so normal security rules apply, but the server exe does not change.
     
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  3. ravien_ff

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    Config.ecf is best used when you're changing specific things because you only need your actual changes in the file, not the entire contents of the example config.

    If you want to make large changes to the whole config it's generally better to use the base config files instead as you have access to way more options.

    Config.ecf is also kind of losing support and no longer works for any items at the moment.
     
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  4. zaphodikus

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    Thanks for that confirm, not had much hacking time lately to experiment and start writing up fresh notes on the config.ECF only option limitations.

    I really want to spend more time actually building large SVs and less on the ECF file exploring stuff, because I find the block shape limitations on CV and BA cut out opportunities for detail. Am keen for the block dimension limits to be lifted as I have an idea for a BA, that is impossible to execute well in the 2m cubes.
     
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  5. MrGReaper

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    For me the turret limits are causing hassle. I want to make a huge CV thats not designed to land, a mobile space base. but the turret limit will mean I wont be able to adequately protect it.
     
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  6. ravien_ff

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    You can disable block limits in the difficulty options (they are disabled by default).
     
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  7. MrGReaper

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    The gameoptions.yaml in our save folder (dedicated server):

    so "# EnableMaxBlockCount: True" to " EnableMaxBlockCount: False" would allow more turrets? There is a lot of options here that do not understand yet I must admit
     
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  8. MrGReaper

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    Im at work and in my haste I posted the wrong section of config, sorry

    So EnableMaxBlockCount: False is already set....damn it back to square one
     
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    For each turret type, in the BlocksConfig.ecf, you can set a max number allowed with the following parameter (example):

    MaxCount: 6, type: int, display: true
     
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  10. MrGReaper

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    How on earth did i miss that....doh
    Thank you, just upped all MaxCount: 6 / 4 / 2 to 20.....that may well be enough lol
    Cheers for the headsup, much appreciated
     
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  11. ravien_ff

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    Remember the tooltip in game will still show a limit, but you will be able to place more.
    Have you tested it?
     
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  12. MrGReaper

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    Turns out I had that set to false (I posted the wrong section, at work and using a very small screen laptop)

    Have edited the limits in the blockconfig though so that *should* solve it...assuming 20 will be an ok limit :)
     
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  13. zaphodikus

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    Why would the tooltip be wrong? Surely that's an undocumented feature? ...although to be fair I almost never look at the tooltip, I always just edited the MaxCount value and moved on with life.
     
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  14. ravien_ff

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    The tooltip is based on what's set in the block config. It doesn't care what the game options are.
     
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  15. skshroyer

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    Much like the OP, I am attempting to add solar panels and the deconstructor to a CV.
    I've changed it to the following in my main config folder (Empyrion - Galactic Survival\Content) as well as the scenario folder (Config.ecf and BlocksConfig.ecf in both).
    AllowPlacingAt: "Base,MS", display: true
    It does work (at least in creative) in a default game, but not in my Project Eden game. Any ideas?
     
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  16. SylenThunder

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    You would have to change the values in the PE content files because the mod uses it's own files that override the vanilla client.
     
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  17. japp_02

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    You should start a new thread, this one is too old to be relevant.
    The config.ecf is not read by the game any longer, remove it, it could also cause your game not starting. You must mod the other ecf files in the configuration directory, though I don't know wether you can reach your goal.
     
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  18. ravien_ff

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    Don't place solar panels on a cv. It can cause parts of your ship to be deleted.
     
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  19. skshroyer

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    I created a backup of the original ecf files and create a backup every time I log in (at a minimum). So far it seems to be working ok on my carrier and dropship. I don't plan on adding to any other ships.
     
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