Feedback Required The Eleon Official Servers Reflection (EU/US)

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  1. RhodeKill

    RhodeKill Commander

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    I've lost 2 CV's this month trying to ninja, any recommendations? The blockades just rip through my shields and armor too quick to get in and out in time.
    Without the blockades it's really easy to ninja any needed resources and warp away if there's danger. I'm just not sure how to get past them without blowing them up, and that's really hard for me to do until I can get some Z & E for better weapons.
    Right now I'm just hitting POI's over and over again until I have enough Z and E for one of my pvp ships to take out a blockade. But the grind is real slow as I have to wait for the POI's to re-spawn and they just don't award very much.
     
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  2. notmanhattan

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    having small amount of z/e in pve would work just to allow people to build some small pvp ships, however it shouldnt be easy to get. something like having 1 small roid of each type surrounded by tons of zirax. maybe 500 ore each per roid with a long regen time so within a few trips you could build a small pvp ship but it'd still be much slower than going into pvp to mine
     
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  3. notmanhattan

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    if bases are an issue you can either try to kill them with a sv by los-ing the turrets or you can make a "wall" cv to distract/block the base from shooting at you
     
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  4. CyberMech

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    Blueprint max size 10, total class limit built 10.
    with a size of 7.50 or lower, you cannot make a really high-quality cruiser with a hangar, lighting, a small amount of decor and at the same time be sufficiently tenacious against flying bricks, which will undoubtedly build even if you limit the size class to at least 1, even to 100.

    The number of slots on the server would be good to raise to 50-60, so that everyone could go to the server :)
     
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  5. notmanhattan

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    increasing the class size is a bad imo since it just leads to more lag. you can build pretty ships that are also functional at lower class sizes. a small increase to the player cap could work but you'd need to be careful increasing it to prevent the server from becoming too laggy
     
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  6. CyberMech

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    I wrote only about fixing limits. Now you can make a ship from the BP size of 7.50, and then increase it to infinity. I just proposed to remove the unlimited, and set a limit of 10 size class maximum. Such maximum class is already used on some American servers.
    The downside of size 7.5 is that a beautiful ship can and can be built, but here it will not be fighting and any brick will simply shoot it, or it will be necessary to limit the number of rooms to 2-3, and preferably without a hangar. At the same time, with a size of 10.50, there is an opportunity to add a hangar with a garden and a medical compartment and at the same time to have much more chances to resist the flying bricks.
    gOOgle translate.
     
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  7. notmanhattan

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    you can still make a nice ship at lower class sizes that can pvp and looks good. increasing the class size limit just adds more lag, having a class 10 brick moving around lags a ton. also having a higher class size encourages people to build even bigger ugly bricks
     
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  8. notmanhattan

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    the server could use a large reduction in deposit anti-grief range since currently planets like pandora are almost entirely covered with anti-grief from deposits. having anti grief everywhere allows less creativity in pvp since players do not have much choice with where they can make bases. not allowing players to place bases around planets during attacks makes fights much less interesting as towers serve as a way to protect landed ships and hold ground during a fight.
     
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  9. CyberMech

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    Do you have examples of such, as you say "beautiful and eefective in pvp less than class 10" ships? Screenshots or links for example.
    google.
     
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  10. notmanhattan

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    the licorp ships look pretty cool https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1801971262
    but you can also make an effective pvp ship at like class 1.25 so theres plenty of room to add in detail into a combat ship
     
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  11. CyberMech

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    as I thought. I'm afraid that such ships are too far from the title of beautiful and effective "Sci-Fi space ship" and do not allow you to feel the spirit of space games, space. its a typical pvp brick +- .
     
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  12. CyberMech

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    the best of this ship on the theme of star wars, perhaps not, but he's already 10.50 class. https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1470859023

    And do not forget that the more objects and different parts, more complex geometry of the body - the better the atmosphere of the ship, and this in turn inevitably increases the class. Thus it turns out that such detailed PVP ship, with a couple of rooms, and various lamps, NPC, etc. will be closer to the size 10, at that time, as a flying brick seat and 1 room will have a size 7 and performance in battle, they will be equal. And if the ceiling of the class has a size of 7, this means that the beautiful ship with a very small amount of space, the simple geometry of the housing and a bad defense can resist a flying brick, well designed with a maximum size of 4 and even 3.

    here is for example Nemesis with size of 8. It is of course necessary to alter firming nose and my layout, but grade 8 is no reduction, except to throw out all the lighting and blinds on the engines that will make him a semi-brick and kill the spirit of the ship.
    https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1447816271
     
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  13. notmanhattan

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    shockingly enough when you spam tons of lights, devices, and make a 200k sath brick is ends up being high class size

    in case it isnt obvious enough if you want lower class size ships that look nice then use less devices (larger thrusters/gens instead of many small thrusters/gens), reduce surface area (use interior as whitespacing, clump non-chaining devices together), and reduce the light count drastically.

    also you seem to think size class is the only thing that determines how good a ship is. in reality size class has little to do with a ships effectiveness, as you can easily make a really tanky pvp ship at class 1 (~40k sath of bait lol), have a really good pvp ship thats smaller at class 3 (our main pvp ship, class 3 30k sath), or have a giant class 10 that gets crushed by our public workshop class 1s (look at any empy server lol). making ships pretty doesnt make them worse it just bloats out the class size a little, even our main combat cv at class 3 has loads of extra triangles which could be cut down to make room for interior without ever going near class 6

    just because you cant figure out how to make a pretty ship that works well at class 6 or below doesnt mean its impossible
     
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  14. boo

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    well :

    - increase player slot , daytime the 40 slot are full.
    - 1 or 2 more pve breathable planet, meldo, plys and the others pve planet are always building full....
    - less duration for playerbase wipe, some base are here since the last patch and the owner look away... a long time ago
    - also, the full server mean... full resource depleted, so pandora is always running out of zasco and eres during the day .... if the other ore is not a problem, these are .... maybe a shorter mineral playfield reset timer can help ?
     
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  15. notmanhattan

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    a small quality of life change would be to increase the water stack size to 1000 because its really annoying to deal with stacks of 100 water
     
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  16. I would kill for anime

    I would kill for anime Ensign

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    I have a problem, the ship with resources and the epic cannon with gold are gone (while disassembling the alien base)
     
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  17. CyberMech

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    Need the ability to teleport En server to US server and US to En as it is done on HWS.
     
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  18. DASHEDM

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    Can we get Volumes and Weights on?
     
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  19. RexXxuS

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    Yes, in the next season I consider to activate it on all official servers
     
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  20. DASHEDM

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    And CPU is on too?
     
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