Not a bug CV - weapons and tools on right hand side not appearing or working

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  1. David Thelwall

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    Build: 1.13.2 4801 21-15:29
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    Severity: annoying (affecting play)

    Type: major problem with attachments on CV

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    Weapons and tools not working on the right hand side of a CV

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    I have built a CV (custom design) which has a large number of attachments (turrets, mining lasers, guns, etc.). I've found that items placed on the the ship don't appear on the weapon bar - and anything where there are a number of them (e.g. I have 7 mining lasers) the ones to the right of the cockpit in the centre don't work. I have plant and machinery (engines, power generation, etc.) on the right hand side and that works without issue - I've attached devices to various points on the right and it just doesn't seem to like working with devices on the right hand side.

    All devices are within the limits of that weapon type/tier and within the maximum number allowable of that device.

    If I relocate the weapon or tool to the right hand side it seems to work suddenly. All blocks are properly connected and there are other plant/machinery items right below the location I was placing the weapon pods.

    Earlier in the build of this CV I had everything working perfectly happily on the right hand side without issue, it just suddenly stopped working somewhere through playthrough.

    To note: All devices appear in the device tree but they don't function or appear on the shortcut bar. I did try mounting two multitool turrets on the right hand side and they work - it's just anything that's operated from the cockpit like weapons or laser mining drills.

    I'm not sure how to classify or define this type or problem, most searches so far have pointed to disconnected blocks but this isn't the case here; it's baffling me entirely. I'm not sure where to go next with this problem, can anyone advise?


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  2. Garaman

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    There is a limit to the number of fixed weapons that can operate on a build. The general way to think about it is that the limit is 20 devices, but you get the first one of each type for free. Any guns over that limit will randomly stop firing. This limit is typically fine for vanilla with block limits enabled, but starts to be noticeable when block limits are off or when playing a scenario with more weapon options.

    Would love to see the limit removed, but I have a feeling that running 100 laser drills would break the game.
     
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  3. David Thelwall

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    I suspected I may have hit a limit of some sort however if if I remove the item and install it on the left side of the ship it works perfectly well.

    If I have a number of items (e.g. 7 or 8 mining lasers) if I mount them with some on the right they don't appear in the listing or work; if I mount them all on the left they're fine.

    They always appear in the devices list but just don't seem to come up; I'm not sure how to approach it, is there a way I can save the entire ship and spawn a duplicate in console or something?
     
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  4. ravien_ff

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    You have hit the maximum number of fixed weapons. This includes tools, even drills.

    The limit is 21 total fixed weapons, with the first weapon of each type not counting towards that limit.

    By moving your drills from one side of your ship to the other, you changed the order they show up on the toolbar, thus making them show up. But if you notice, some of your other weapons would have disappeared from your bar.

    The only fix is to remove some of your fixed weapons to get you under the limit.

    Unfortunately I am not sure if any of this is a bug, just the janky way it works.
     
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  5. David Thelwall

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    Aaah I see -thanks, I was just unable to make sense of it before. Are turrets included in this limitation? It's a pretty horrendous limitation, I wonder if the devs are going to do something with this?
     
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  6. Taelyn

    Taelyn Administrator Staff Member Community Manager

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    No turrets are not included
    Its a performance limitation, we wont increase the limit at this point
     
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