Capital Vessel

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  1. Flip

    Flip Captain

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    It takes forever. Did that with my first CV and took over 3 weeks. Im over it and ready for a way to implement our blueprints in survival without cheating xD
     
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  2. Times05

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    Would be cool if we had some sort of resource counter. For example, here's a blueprint of a ship/base and this is how many of each block/resource it needs. Sooner or later devs will have to implement something like that if blueprints will ever work in survival.
     
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  3. Flip

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    Any chance you will share the BP? I'd love to explore this ship.
     
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  4. Flip

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    I just checked out your ship. I love how you did the Sickbay and Storage room. Hope you don't mind if I borrow that idea. :D
     
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  5. Arturius1967

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    Here is it,

    the most scary, deadly and mysterious alien ship in the Sci-Fi history,

    Shadows Battlecrab

    from the "Babylon 5" movies / tv-series.

    It's huge: width 300 m , length: 180 m, Height: 80 m
    and heavy, Weight: 37 Kt.
    Building time: 2 weeks

    I used every free space inside the ship to add RCS's, but it's still barely moving.
    Roll and pitch are acceptable, but yaw is poor.
    Use arrow-keys for better moving.

    Best use as mobile space base.
    It has all you need for survival.
    All thrusters are hidden.

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    You can find a reworked version of this ship in my workshop:
    http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=667066263
     
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  6. Times05

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    That is AWESOME. Great work!

    Piddlefoot has an awesome Narn Cruiser and I'm working on larger version of Hyperion Class Cruiser (earth alliance). Now we need Omega Class Destroyer (earth alliance), Whitestar, Minbari Sharlin, Centauri Primus/Vorchan ships, something from Vorlons, and of course Babylon 5 station to complete most of the major Babylon 5 vessels.

    Honestly, Shadow vessel must have been hardest to design. Vorlon vessels are a bit weird and difficult too, Whitestar has a bit too many smooth arcs.
     
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  7. Arturius1967

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    Thank you!
    Yes this was a really hard work. The hardest since I started to build ships for this game.
    Especially, because we actually dont have the possibilities to load pictures or models into game for reference.
    what I was doing, I built a draft, then made a screenshot and compared it to a reference picture in my paint software,
    adding a half transparent layer to the screenshot.
    This helped me a lot, but building these feelers was still pain in the hell with the cubes ;)

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  8. Flip

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    Wow. I bet few have thought to replicate that ship before. Nice job.
     
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  9. Kaloriaa

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    Wow nice.
     
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  10. Times05

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    BTW I fixed it up a bit on the inside. Removed like over 200 RCS.... added a few generators(5) and about 30 small thrusters (you literally had none to the sides), and that thing turns a lot better now, weight is 19ish kt (about 1/2 less).

    So it's about as maneuverable as most CVs that size if you want to take a look I'll upload the modified interior version here.

    Part of the problem I think was weight, then lack of side thrusters, the biggest was probably lack of power to run all those RCS you had before. That many shouldn't be necessary, even the biggest ship should have below 20.

    I'm not 100% sure, but I think there are still too many engines (up/down and forward/back). Only need like 2-3 big ones at the most in each direction.
     
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  11. blooddragon606

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    20 bucks says I can buzz through that hangar at 100m/s without making a dent. Hold my drink...
     
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  12. Memphis

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    This is one hell of a great job. Can image how pain it was to develop ;-)
     
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  13. Rannoc McMaulin

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    Retrofitted the MS Hammer to make better use of space. I also wanted a repair bay / workshop for zero G building.
    Changes:
    • Grow area is now up front
    • Forward thrusters have been moved to the side hangers
    • Old forward thruster location was opened up to make a large hanger.
    • New hanger opening is 7 x 3, can be 7 x 4 by giving up some crew area.
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  14. Cain

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    Nova9.png Nova1.png Nova8.png Nova2.png Nova5.png Nova6.png Nova7.png Nova3.png I have attached my Nova Dreadnought EAS Firestorm as she stands (see zip file). She has a couple rear turrets missing and the interior is.... utilitarian. But she is beautiful and certainly has some "Empyrion CV" engineering principles to impart. For instance I'm proud of the relatively hidden "max visibility" bridge, recessed weapons (protected), and would have been proud of my hull design (2 ablative + 1 maintenance crawlspace + 1 inner hull) had it not made her to heavy to turn... Or perhaps she'll make good target practice for a battle crab :). Either way enjoy!

    I abandoned her given the unwavering maneuverability challenge. Ironically I was reading up on them and found this excerpt which just sums it up too perfectly:

    "The first Nova was defined "maneuverable as a wounded hog" after her shakedown cruise. But there are less maneuverable ships, fielded even by more advanced races. The Nova N, and the Nova Beta, have a decent linear acceleration, given their enormous mass, and a lot of power available: their maneuverability is hampered by the fact that they are slow to yaw and to pitch up or down."
    --http://efni.org/Nova_N.htm

    Been focusing on my white star lately with priority given to keeping her as light & maneuverable as possible with armor where it counts and with enormous forward facing fire power (ie rockets) -- in short a minimum crew capital ship killer. Someone mentioned the difficulty of "organic" surfaces and curves for the battle crab and white star. My only response at this time is "yep". Amazing battle crab by the way!
     

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  15. Bender

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    I try your ship, but sorry, i dont like it. Thrusters inside? Really? And very chaotic rooms. Control panel i very funny too. Sorry man
     
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  16. Arturius1967

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    You probably dont even know, what this ship is.
    And there is a good reason for hiding the thrusters...
    ... if you build replicas.

    @Cain: great job!
    Thx for sharing
     
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  17. Bender

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    sorry Arturius1947 but thrusters in the ship are nonsense, they could meltdown blocks and hurting people in finally version of this game. therefore i think i know what I am talk about
     
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  18. magnusshields

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    I like to buzz out the hanger backward honestly that way I don't spill my coffee. Unless you are saying you are going thou the back wall lol

    And sorry haven't posted the small CV yet been busy at work.
     
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  19. Arturius1967

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    Not if there is enough room behind them. Anyway, It's a game and if it works, why not use it ?
    If you are searching for more realistic physics, then you should play Space Engineers, if you can handle all these bugs.

    If you say so ;)

    I'm looking forward to your great ship creations / builds.
     
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  20. Bender

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    i build many ships, but i build only escape Pods and dropship, no CV, i will just said my opinion. i dont thought that bad
     
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