List of useful but not so obvious features of EGS.

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  1. Ian Einman

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    I certainly remember the food & medical stuff being revamped, but don't remember radiation working that much differently than it does now. What I remember is that certain food did specifically say it reduced radiation, but it wasn't a specific amount. It just rounded down to the nearest integer (like now). And I thought that bread was actually one of the foods that did it, which is why I carried it to the moon. But not all foods did that, only a few, bread being the only one I remember.

    But I could be wrong, that was a long time ago in Empyrion-hours.
     
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  2. Ian Einman

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    In the config files I think there is one. Or at least there was, back before they revamped the food/medical.
     
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  3. Ian Einman

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    OK, to satisfy my own curiosity, I went back to check how much of everyone's recollection is true:
    • Food has always reduced radiation in the way it does now (down to nearest whole number)
    • It was sometime in alpha 7 that Radiation reduction was added to the tooltip of certain items, and it was removed in alpha 8
    • I was wrong about it being bread that reduced radiation - it was pumpkin cookies that I brought to the moon for that purpose - also fruit pies, waffles, the Eleon cake, and canned meat/veggies did it. (maybe I was thinking "baked goods"?)
    • It used to be something you could configure, but not anymore
    This used to do something in the configuration file:

    { Item Id: 2422, Name: PumpkinCookie, Ref: FoodTemplate
    Category: Food
    {
    ROF: 1, type: float
    AddHealth: 40, display: HealthValue
    AddStamina: 15, display: StaminaValue
    AddFood: 207, display: FoodValue
    AddOxygen: 10, display: OxygenValue
    AddRadiation: -5, display: RadiationValue

    }
    }

    AddOxygen still works in Alpha 9.6 but AddRadiation does not, it seems to have been removed completely.
     
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  4. Pach

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    @Ian Einman : great reasearch!

    I remember the canned meat and veggies: they used a lemon spike thing, that only grew on the arid planet, in certain areas. They were very hard to make because of it, and if I'm remembering right, that's part of what spawned discussions that led to the food system we have today: the only long-perish-timer foods required funky rare ingredients, and people wanted to be able to make long-lasting food, without having it tied to the extraneous effects (which may or may not have been desired). Foods were re-worked/simplified (I really like what we have now), and the healing items were mostly pulled over to the medicine portion.

    I remember combing my arid world for those lemon things... because I wanted the long-lasting food, not the radiation reduction.

    Hopefully the Devs are watching this thread... or perhaps we should start a new one with suggestions on ways to reduce body radiation, if the food hack is removed?
     
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  5. Buuuh

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    Wodden Grow Plots are airtight. Atleast in 9.5. We used them as floor (just terrain underneath them) and the room became airtight and well temperated. Removing one grow plot made the room not airtight anymore.
     
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  6. Ian Einman

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    Alien Spike Lemon was needed for canned veggies only in a few versions, it was later in 7.x I think. Straight up 7.0 wasn't like that. I remember because I built a canned vegetable factory orbiting Skillon that had an entire floor dedicated to each ingredient in the right proportions. The only non-grown ingredient I needed was water, which had to be imported from Akua. This base had solar power so it must have been 7.5. In 7.6 is when they messed with the recipes and I remember being annoyed that the base I just built didn't work anymore. (Not that I ever had anything practical to do with 10 refrigerators full of canned vegetables anyway.)
     
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  7. Pach

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    That would be the lemon thing I remembered. :p

    ... besides be ready for the apocalypse? :)
     
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  8. Pach

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    All: food reducing radiation is confirmed as a bug (see the thread I linked earlier).

    We should not rely on this as a game mechanic in the future.
     
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