v1.5 EXP: Reworked story missions

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  1. bluemax151

    bluemax151 Captain

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    I know I've had non hostile drones and ships come up on me while mining asteroids in Exp. I haven't bothered mining in areas with hostile drones until I've taken them out 1st . You do get attacked by drones in the starter area though. In my game space was swarming with them and I was attacked as soon as I left atmosphere in my SV.

    I know it used to be when you went near a POI like the brewery (or was it when you entered a playfield?) you could trigger drones but there was a bug that all drones would be Zirax and this was griefing players so it was fixed.
     
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    Very quick question.

    Are you allowed to teleport to faction bases you are neutral with or do I need to submit a bug report?
    (I cannot teleport to Sanctuary or the Orbital Trade Station.)
     
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  3. Robot Shark

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    One quick build change request, have the elevator blocks go all the way to the top.

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  4. Hummel-o-War

    Hummel-o-War Administrator Staff Member Community Manager

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    I think you need to be at least friendly. The Teleport menu should show the entry and mark it orange or red if you are not allowed to go there. If this is not the case > plz bug report.
     
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  5. Hummel-o-War

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    Not possible, as they include a full block. I solved that for the GLaD base already. Need to do it for the other base as well I think.
     
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    AI will only attack you if you are on Unfriendly or Hostile standing. There are different faction drones in the orbits. Depends on the standing which will attack you.
     
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  7. Pach

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    Hrm.

    Will investigate this further. If there isn't a drone spawn upon approach/drilling asteroid mechanic, space isn't nearly as dangerous as it used to be.

    Even less so, if the drones, once killed, never respawn. :)
     
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  8. Robot Shark

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    Ok, so it's working as intended. Thank you.
     
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  9. Steintor

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    In that case, now that the Orbital Trading Station in the starter system is assigned to the Colonists, how are you ever, legitimately, able to teleport there? There appear to be no options to become 'Friendly' with the Colonists.
     
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  10. Space Ghost

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    Chapter 10 "Wins and Losses"

    Maybe I am misunderstanding the 2nd "prison break" mission objective (Distraction 1) : "Fly to any planet orbit and destroy two stations of the Ghyst. If you do not find any, search in the nearby star systems. Destroy their cores to complete the task, Vessels will work as well."

    My take on that statement is this:

    The two Ghyst stations are in *ORBIT* around a planet *IN* your start solar system...but *MAY* be in orbit around a planet in "a nearby" star system. (whatever "nearby" means, how many LY or AU to search in?)

    I cant find them. Anywhere.

    Have I searched EVERY "nearby star system yet? No. But already like 5 systems and every single planet/ asteroid field/station/ect. within them. Wasting a lot of pentaxid/fuel looking, not to mention a huge amount of time (real hours). I have to fly close to any Zirax red "?" icon and verify the faction, then on to the next, and next, until every (red) "?" has been checked in that planets orbit then I warp to the next in same system. Every suspect ship/orbital POI. Mostly they are warlord outside of my start system. (Zirax there) When I have exhausted every planet in that star, I warp to the next star and start all over again. (sigh)

    Maybe it's just an unlucky seed # (850645) but before I waste more hours searching the remaining "nearby" star systems, I want to clarify if I am doing what I am supposed to be doing.

    This objective is *NOT* referring to entering any planets atmosphere and searching for planetary POI's, correct? Because it specifically says orbit, and vessels. (I'm going to try this next with an attack HV anyway)

    Why does it have to be the Ghyst and not any Zirax? (ok, maybe you should not answer that as it may be a story element I'm not aware of yet) ;)

    I have a sneaking suspicion that destroying a Ghyst planetary POI will work. (assuming I don't pick one with an admin core) and that's perfectly fine. Just say so in the objective: "Fly to any planet or orbit and destroy two stations of the Ghyst"

    This slight syntax correction would save us "thick headed" people a lot of grief. :)
     
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  11. bluemax151

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    @Space Ghost

    Maybe something was updated/changed but when I did this mission there were Defense Stations in the same Sector as the Prison and these are what I destroyed to complete the objective.
     
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  12. Space Ghost

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    I did just now find a Ghyst station *ON PLANET* (well, a moon, but same difference). So my suspicion was correct, so can the devs just make that slight tweak to the syntax of the objective. It was in my start system and I only had to go to three planetary surfaces to find it. Would have saved me a LOT of time.

    Oh, and another thing. I know why it had to be Ghyst as I have the freaking command card for them I had completed in a prior mission! I TOLD you I was thick headed. Doh! :rolleyes:

    EDIT/UPDATE:

    The first Ghyst POI I did "Support Base" , I destroyed the core myself, and got credit for "Distraction objective 1"

    However, the next one I tried "Stealth Outpost" I used the switch to do it (self destruct) red lights flashed then "Boom!" Core destroyed...but NO mission credit.

    So tried a third POI. " Drone Port" got to the point of throwing the destruct switch, but this time, saved a backup before throwing it. Then threw the switch, and once again, Boom! Core destroyed but no mission completion credit.

    Reloaded from the backup and manually destroyed the core myself...Mission complete.

    So, it would seem if you use the destruct levers on these Ghyst POI's, you wont get mission completion credit. Only blowing the cores yourself will. Going to formally report in the bug thread.
     
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  13. El_Globo

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    Hi,
    For me, I just began Prison break on V1.5 3375. I found the system high security.
    The the brief said find the local asteroid belt => bad luck there are 5 in the system and a bunch of planets/moons...

    I jumped to every asteroid belt and used console command MAP just to see if the prison was here without having to cross the whole sector...
    Nothing apart some heavy zirax ships in certain zones.

    Is there something broken ? Do I have to scan the station sector and each planet moon ? little boring, as for now a waypoint showed the right direction ?
     
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  14. Hummel-o-War

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    There should only be one asteroid fiedl > please report as a bug with the seed ID and maybe a screenshot of the system. Thx
     
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  15. Robot Shark

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    Quick question, now that we have the holographic displays could these panels in the mining operation be moved please?
    I know I have requested this before, but I think the holographic displays did not exist back then.

    Eye level please, not on the floor.

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  16. Hummel-o-War

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    If someone finds the time to rework that POI ... sure ;)
     
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    Here's hoping that Vermillion has the time.
     
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  18. BDAKiwi

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    I'm an adventurer by nature and I usually do a local recce before I commit. This means that occasionally I do something or clear out an area only to find that I've broken the mission. We shouldn't be able to go into places out of order of a mission objective if that will happen, given the linear progression required.
    I broke the Unholy Creatures Ancient Tower part of Tales of the Past, when I couldn't see any spiders I figured they must be inside so I went in. Couldn't get out again without activating the switch and clearing the dungeon, and that broke the mission because when I came out I found the previously absent spiders crawling over the tower. Killed them, got the tick, but I couldn't achieve the tower/dungeon section because I had already switched the door switch inside the tower and it had become inactive.
    Uncertain Outcomes mission is bugged, on return to the trading station for the Debriefing/Meet Sectioner32 part, the door to the room was open but no response from Sectioner32. I posted a bug report and a few days later when I tried again part of the mission appeared to have been reset and sure enough it was different. The mission doesn't say where to go (just 'back to the trading station' which isn't going to help if you put the game down for a while) but when I entered the right system, the trading station was highlit. But now the door was closed and locked and I couldn't find a way to open it. I found the password to the engineering section, I checked every surface on the station for a switch, I spoke to everyone who could be spoken to but no luck. I had to bypass it to resume so missed the debrief. Haven't gone much further yet.
     
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  19. BDAKiwi

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    The viewable parts of the missions are very obscure - 'Check panel 1' 'Go to trading station' 'Find an access station' etc etc
    Not sure how this qualifies as spoilers
     
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  20. BDAKiwi

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    We're only idiots if we do something stupid that we already know is a stupid thing to do.
     
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