PLZ Retest and Re-Report Missing terrain

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  1. Flash Hendricks

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    This has cropped up from time to time as long as I've been playing Emp, but I thought I'd report that it's still happening. Built a base (one the levelled area that was left after I removed the Large Wreckage POI, so no digging). When I reloaded, I got this:
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    Tried quitting and reloading several times, but this large hole with floating grass layer persists.
     
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  2. Pantera

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    Hi do you know how this can be reproduced again starting with a use case before the terrain appears like this ?
     
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  3. Paganizer

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    I had something similar in 12.2. Some terrain above my base (dug into mountain) disappeared. I could reload game and it would go away.

    However in 12.3 in one instance I had a huge impenetrable wall of earth going right through my mountain base. It could NOT be removed with drill. Reloading did NOT remove it, but fortunately I had another recent save, which had no issues. Only seen it once so far, but I'm doing double saves now.

    I can't reproduce, so I know it's not to much help.
     
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  4. Fenra369

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    I saw this in similar scenarios in ZeroG server. I believe it's possibly caused by DSL artifacts when rendering terrain, it could be reproduced via fast god mode movement on flattened or dug out terrains. Sometimes it would go away, sometimes it would stay.
     
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  5. cmguardia

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    @Pantera
    I have a game in progress. In this game the problem of wells in the ground is reproduced.
    How to reproduce: Going from the base as far as possible, taking your time to collect what you find on the way, you can go around the planet. Upon returning to Base you will find a triangle well, always in the same place.
    They have reappeared 3 times in the same place.

    Tengo un juego en proceso. En este juego se reproduce el problema de pozos en el suelo.
    Forma de reproducir: Salir en recorrido desde la base lo mas alejado posible, tomarse su tiempo en recolectar lo que encuentres en el camino, puede dar una vuelta al planeta. Al regresar a la Base se encontrará un pozo en triángulo, siempre en el mismo lugar.
    Han reaparecido 3 veces en el mismo lugar.
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  6. cmguardia

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    I hope it is useful!

    Espero sea útil!
     
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  7. Pantera

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    Hey I have been looking for this but cannot make it trigger at all.
    When it happens for you is there any message in the console or log that looks like this ?
    -ERR- Terrain not found

    btw that save game is not compatible anymore please start a new game as of A124 B2914.
     
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  8. boolybooly

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    BUILD: Console Savegame version Alpha 12.4 build 2914
    BUILD: Screen version Experimental 12.4 2914

    Mode: Survival
    Mode: Singleplayer

    SERVER NAME: n/a
    SEED-ID: 485734 playfield "Baadeym" system "Ellyon".

    If applicable:
    MODIFIED PLAYFIELDS: completely unmodified steam instal Win7

    Reproducibility: always
    Severity: medium

    Type: terrain

    Summary: gaps appear in terrain

    Description: gaps appear in terrain through which the regions below the terrain are visible.

    Steps to Reproduce: wander around on foot or bike long enough and you will find these gaps occurring naturally. Also visible in modified terrain structures.

    As with the other terrain bugs, if you drill close to the gap it is sealed when the terrain deforms.

    Screenshots:
    e.g. here is an example I saw on my bike, nearly fell into it! Cleared away some of the grass to see it better, which did not seal it. Subterranean forms are visible through the gap.
    https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2106426597

    After deforming the terrain around the gap shown above, it sealed itself.
    https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2106426705

    Here you can see a gap in the tunnel leading down to my subterranean lair. The top of the engineering section is visible through the gap because it also has a gap in it see below.
    https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2106426800

    This is the engineering section with a big gap through which you can see the underside of the terrain above.
    https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2106426884

    On deforming the terrain, the gap closed because the preexisting terrain created by previous mining was refreshed.
    https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2106426951
     
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  9. cmguardia

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    Yes. Last night it was updated and I can't play it.o_O
    But I suppose you could go back to version 12.3xxx to check the problem and have clues of the error.
    Is there any way that I can revert back to A12.3xxx?

    Si. Anoche se actualizó y no puedo jugarlo. o_O
    Pero supongo que tú podrías volver al la versión 12.3xxx para revisar el problema y tener pistas del error.
    Hay alguna forma de que yo pueda revertir volviendo a A12.3xxx?


    I have not reviewed the console messages, no terrain messages have ever appeared when they have happened previously and so don't bother me.

    I have started a new game. I will follow the steps to reproduce it and see what happens.:)


    No he revisado los mensajes de consola, nunca han aparecido mensaje del terreno cuando han sucedido anteriormente y por ello no me tome la molestia.

    He comenzado un juego nuevo. Seguiré los pasos para reproducirlo y veré que sucede.:)
     
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  10. Flash Hendricks

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    Just started a brand new game in 12.4.2 and built my first base near the large wreckage POI (as used in Robinson protocol). Been wandering around, doing a few missions, etc. just came home for a nap and woke up to this:
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    -- I now have a grass level floating across my front door (quitting and reloading doesn't help, BTW). I didn't do any excavating for this base; the dips in the foreground that you can see are the result of placing and removing the tent.
    Here are the game details from the console:
    Local player 76561198030837836/'Flash Hendricks’
    Starting SP/MP game
    Save game version Experimental 12.4.2, Build 2921
    Voxelizing took 621ms, voxels=148261, shapes=1269, mem=649kB
    Init: game=NewGame_0-200528-1443, mode=valuesPosition, global seed=117711, playfield=Supbiroura
    Loaded sector file C:\Steam\steamapps\common\Empyrion - Galactic Survival\Client/../Saves/Games/NewGame_0-200528-1443/Sectors/Sectors.yaml with 28 playfields, needed 753ms
    Task Type=sessionID Threadld=19556 Managedld=27
    Generating stars=19662 took 216
    Caching of BAI Behavior trees: 109 ms Memory: 0.188 MB
    Thread ’ResolveDomainl’ Threadld=17432 Managedld=28
    Loading playfield 'Supbiroura'
    Create ’’Bazaar’, 1018’ took 6ms, spawn took 72ms. Total: 72ms
    Playfield ’Supbiroura’ with type ’planet’ class=3 and playfield seed 339283 loaded (1926 ms)
    Weather: Fog
     
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  11. FionnMacCumhaill

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    Missing triangle , first time I've seen this. Drops you into the planet but then you bounce back up again. Pic and save file attached. First time I've ever encountered this glitched hole
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  12. basingleton

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    This happens to me sometimes too.. and if I run around it a bit, it can grow in size, but if I leave the area and come back, its gone.

    I think there's already a bug report for it, but it's labeled as 'not able to currently reproduce" or something like that. You might want to add your experience and save game to that bug report.
     
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  13. Pach

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    I've seen these too, but not in A12.

    And they disappear when I exit/re-enter the game. I suspect they have something to do with running the game for long periods of time.
     
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  14. basingleton

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    I'm not so sure about that.. I started a new A12.5, and when I went around picking protein in the area, I experienced one at the base of a hill, less than 3 minutes after crash landing.
     
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  15. FionnMacCumhaill

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    Yep mine was close to start of game as well.
     
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  16. cmguardia

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    This is new!
    It is the "Burial Chamber" building.
    Only the lack of filling is observed from below, if you are above it is normal, or if the drone runs through the vacuum it will be ejected upwards after a moment.
    A restart of the game solves this problem.

    Esto es nuevo!
    Es el edificio "Burial Chamber"
    Solo se observa la falta de relleno desde abajo, si estas arriba es normal, o si el dron recorre el vació será expulsado hacia arriba luego de un momento.
    Un reinicio del juego resuelve este problema.
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    I also have a lack of texture on some ground surfaces always around some of the Talon buildings.
    It is not resolved by restarting the game.
    También tengo falta de textura en algunas superficies del suelo siempre al rededor de alguna de las construcciones Talon.
    No se resuelve con el reinicio del juego.
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    Experimental V12.6.2
    Starting planet: Carnival (Snow planet), playfield seed 331107
    SP survival game.
    No configuration changes.


    Experimental V12.6.2
    Planeta de inicio: Carniflal (Planeta de nieve), playfield seed 331107
    Juego supervivencia SP.
    Sin modificaciones de configuración.
     
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  17. Annimar Telesh

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    Suddenly there's a rectangular hole on my starter planet.
    I drove over it with the Hoover and it sank slowly down to a meadow. I drove on to see the "wall". But there was none. I suddenly stood again on the normal ground some meters behind the hole.
    I sent the drone in, with the same result at the "wall".
    From above the hole you can see a bright piece of meadow apparently at the bottom. When the drone reaches this "meadow", it appears high above the hole. Just still in range.
    Very strange.

    If necessary, there are some screenshots.
     
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  18. Pach

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    for something like that, a savefile with your character at/looking at the hole would probably be more helpful for the Devs to find the cause and fix it.
     
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  19. Germanicus

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    Those "Holes" happen from time to time. The Devs can't reproduce it.
    Simplest method for you is to hit the Ground with the Drill/ Survival Tool in Drill mode where the Hole is. The hole will close.
     
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  20. spacegal

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    Mode: Survival
    Mode: Singleplayer

    SERVER NAME: Singleplayer
    SEED-ID: 34851 Aelad

    If applicable:
    MODIFIED PLAYFIELDS: No

    Reproducibility: Easy
    Severity: Medium

    Type: Game mechanic

    Summary: Survival tent underwater

    Description: As you may see from the screenshot it is possible to use the survival tent underwater. Now it could be fine since we're in the year 24xx - even though solar panels are exactly like ours ;) - but at least the oxygen should be consumed instead you're using oxygen while diving then you use the tent and the oxygen remains the same after waking up in the morning. Does the tent have its own oxygen reserve? Just in case I would expect an oxygen tank for the tent... so to have a tent underwater would be fine for the type of game but as of now just not in line with the requirements other objects have.

    Steps to Reproduce: Put the tent underwater, not linked to base anyway otherwise the wireframe will be red.

    Screenshots, Crash Logs, any other Relevant Information or Download links:
    I'll upload the screenshot directly here.
     

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