Fixed Some NPC CV's not moving/responding [7607]

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  1. Robot Shark

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    Build: 3079
    Mode: Survival

    SERVER NAME: N/A
    SEED-ID: 2261970

    Reproducibility: Intermittent
    Severity: Trivial

    Type: NPC CV's

    Summary: Some NPC CV's not moving/responding

    Description: I have noticed that many Polaris NPC CV's have their thrusters turned off and are not moving in space. You can get close enough to ram them and they will not budge. I fired on it and it just sat there and let me blow it up.

    I have seen this with the Zirax freighter AiX, Polaris Patron-V transport, Polaris Small Lifter, & Polaris Magpie.

    Steps to Reproduce: Find a Polaris CV in space.

    Save game with my ship parked in front of a Polaris Patron-V transport enclosed.
     
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  2. Pantera

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    Does this happen for you in other saves also ?
     
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    The issue happened again in the new game I started today.
    This save game has me parked in front of a stalled Polaris Sparrow.
     
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    I have been flying around for a while and I think I witnessed the moment of death.
    The NPC's ship was moving, until I got within render distance.
    When the game rendered the ship on my screen it permanently stopped moving.
    I am going to continue flying around and see if I can repeat that.
     
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    I'm having trouble forcing this to happen again from a fresh save or in the save you provided by going to any other sector.
    Can you say how many times out of 3 different sectors (space playfields) does it trigger for you ?
     
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    I have seen this with 1-3 ships in every sector I have visited.
    In both the save games I attached I was parked in front of a stalled CV.
    Did they start moving again when you loaded the save?
     
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    I am going to revise my earlier theory, after a few hours of flying around and approaching bogies I think they spawned stalled.
    I have been finding them by scanning and then approaching blips, the ones that are moving tend to stay moving.
    The ones that don't, don't.

    I am enclosing the log file from the last session but I did not see anything in it that indicated a problem.
    I am going to update to 3082 and see if I can replicate the issue with a new game.
     
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    Ok, I was flying around for about 30 minutes before I found a stalled CV after upgrading to 3082.
    My theory about them spawning stalled, disregard it please.

    I found a Polaris Mule and flew away, just after I found the TOPS Refinery I noticed that the Mule seemed to have stopped moving.
    I flew back to the Mule and found it stalled, all thrusters were turned off and it was not moving.

    Screenshot (showing the thrusters are off), saved game with my CV parked in front of the stalled Mule, and log enclosed.
     

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    You know, all of the three save games I have uploaded were after I had found the TOPS Brewery.
    I am laying off the theories, but I thought I would point that out.
     
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    I can confirm that I have had this happen to us also on our MP server when facing Legacy and Zrx.

    Latest build, game server only 1 week from fresh wipe.
     
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    Tested the issue in 3124, issue is still present.
    It took a little flying around, but this save has me parked next to a stalled Albatross.
    There is also a stalled Small Lifter and Warhound in the same system.
     
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    Reproducible in 3129, fresh game.
    Do the devs want the save file?
     
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    +1 Also for the second time we see Zirax Patrol Vessel just lying on the surface of the planet, but with working turrets.
     
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    Ideally we need something that can be reliably triggered so like this warp to a playfield in a save & it happens always or at least sometimes & can be repeated a few times with he same steps & same starting & end point (that means the steps to repro: 1, 2, 3 etc)
     
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    That's the hard part about this glitch, I leave the planet and start exploring the system when I eventually find them.
    I do use the scanner quite frequently, but I have no idea how long they have been stalled before I get close enough to "discover" them.
    Nutshell, I know it's happening, but I have no idea what it triggering it.

    In this save I skipped the story missions, spawned a CV and went straight into space.
    Using the Map command I checked the sector, all CV's were moving.
    I hid the map and started flying around, after about 16 minutes (and discovering the 10th POI) I noticed that one of the CV's had stopped moving. I flew to it and found it stalled, thrusters off.

    This is a screenshot of the console taken after I found the stalled CV.
    The save game has me parked in front of it.

    20201010141515_1.jpg
     
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    Game version 3131 has dropped.
    Followed same methodology as last time.
    Skipped story, spawned a CV, went straight into space.
    After discovering 17 POI's (6 were CV's) I noticed that one of the previously discovered CV's had stopped moving.
    Total game time was around 18 minutes.
    Save game has me parked in front of the stalled CV.

    20201010223446_1.jpg
     
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    Thanks for your efforts I can see this also now it takes some time to make it happen.....
    I'll update the thread when we have a fix ready for this.
     
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    Reproducible in 3134, new game.
     
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    Thanks but we haven't put a fix out for this yet so it will continue to appear for the time being.
     
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    I noticed that this was moved to a different forum, I'm glad you were able to figure out what was causing it.
     
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